07-02-2007
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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E85?
i tried running a search but i could not find anything, just curious what is needed for me to run E85?
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07-02-2007
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#2
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flips McGee
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Re: E85?
search again man, seriously. fuel management, big fuel pump, big injectors. done!
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07-02-2007
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#3
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Slower than a rusty Honda
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Re: E85?
Don't you need differn't lines to?
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07-02-2007
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formerly ecoli
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: E85?
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Originally Posted by 2003eclipse
Don't you need differn't lines to?
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Not unless your stock ones are too small to support your HP. The stock lines will max at a much lower HP level on E85 then they would on race gas.
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07-02-2007
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Re: E85?
can we get the exact minimum specs for running E85?
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07-02-2007
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Join Date: Nov 2003
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Re: E85?
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Originally Posted by jhaan_dude
can we get the exact minimum specs for running E85?
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That is completely dependant on your setup. Someone with a SC61 is going to have entirely different requirements then someone on a T28.
To reinforce what Chris said, all you need is to make sure you have enough pump, enough injectors, and fuel management.
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07-02-2007
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Area code 166 represent
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Crystal, MN
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Re: E85?
If someone wants to put a FAQ together we can take care of this once and for all.
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07-02-2007
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Red Wing, MN
Drives: Too Many
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Re: E85?
Nobody has seen any other problems with fuel lines? For some reason I think I thought I heard about the rubber rotting away because the E85 isn't as lubricated or some shit? I am probably wrong though since I haven't researched E85 that much.
So totally stock lines are fine as long as they can handle enough volume for your power goals while maintaining a good tune?
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07-07-2007
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Mondovi, Wi
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Re: E85?
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Originally Posted by TheBlizzard
Nobody has seen any other problems with fuel lines? For some reason I think I thought I heard about the rubber rotting away because the E85 isn't as lubricated or some shit? I am probably wrong though since I haven't researched E85 that much.
So totally stock lines are fine as long as they can handle enough volume for your power goals while maintaining a good tune?
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Nothing to do with lubrication or lack of. It is everything to do with the corrosiveness of alcohol on rubber and aluminum.
Like many in this thread have said though, people using it today have seen little to no effect on their stock parts in non flex fuel vehicles.
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07-02-2007
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Pewp Champion
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Blaine
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Re: E85?
So far so good. I wish I could find the link again, but there were some mustang folk who had been running it for a long time, and decided to disassemble everything to inspect for any abnormal wear. They found nothing. But if in 7 years I find that I need to replace my fuel rail due to e85, then so be it.
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07-02-2007
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Banned
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: 1mi. from SD Border
Posts: 374
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Re: E85?
950's on a e316g / walbro 255 / dsmlink over kill?
I haven't found much on this setup, let alone a E316G. I was just wondering if I can support our great country in burning what they can provide.
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07-02-2007
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It was a auto get over it
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: rochester mn
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Re: E85?
No such thing as over kill, always better to be over prepared then underprepared, but you should also get a fuel pressure regulator
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07-02-2007
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Banned
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: 1mi. from SD Border
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Re: E85?
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Originally Posted by twack
No such thing as over kill, always better to be over prepared then underprepared, but you should also get a fuel pressure regulator
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Yeah, forgot that. I'll be getting that, theres so much stuff I still need but I'm damn close to being able to put it all together. I'm still deciding on a Fuel Lab or Aero' unit.
Scheides, or anyone for that matter, what's a safe Duty Cycle for it? That's my last squid question. :P I'm aiming for way too much awhp on the evo 3 16g.
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07-02-2007
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flips McGee
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Re: E85?
950's should be fine on that turbo. Just keep an eye on your IDC's while tuning. DSMlink will work dandy!
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07-02-2007
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Re: E85?
my setup is t3 AR .48, 880cc injectors, 255 walbro, and megan racing fuel pressure regulator, and apexi neo. would that work together with no problems?
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07-02-2007
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back in the saddle again
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Re: E85?
950's are a tad large.
We just got done doing 880's on a 1g with 2g mas, idc's were just fine for 300ishawhp on our rollers.
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07-02-2007
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flips McGee
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Re: E85?
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Originally Posted by niterydr
950's are a tad large.
We just got done doing 880's on a 1g with 2g mas, idc's were just fine for 300ishawhp on our rollers.
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What were the IDC's at on that car?
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07-02-2007
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back in the saddle again
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Re: E85?
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Originally Posted by scheides
What were the IDC's at on that car?
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I don't recall, I want to say mid 80's?
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07-02-2007
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Big Lake MN
Drives: 98 Eclipse GSX Auto
Posts: 1,516
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Re: E85?
A wideband o2 should also be on your list.
you'll need
30%-40% bigger fuel pump (255's have proven sufficent for up to a 50 trim)
30%-40% bigger injectors
some type of fuel controler (SAFC, DSMLINK, EMS, ect.)
wideband o2 sensor.
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07-02-2007
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#20
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Pewp Champion
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Blaine
Drives: Teh Bean
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Re: E85?
I'd just say if all the injectors are the same price, just get the largest ones that you can reasonably control with the tuning tools you have. But 880's should be plenty fine for a T3. As for the Neo, I have no experience with those. But if you have an EPROM, most shops here could burn you a new chip to get you close, and then fine tune it with whatever else you have.
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