07-02-2007
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#21
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Pewp Champion
Join Date: Nov 2003
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Re: E85?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but last year when Kyle ran that 11.1 or whatever it was on E85, he was running an SC61 with stock lines, and a single Walbro 255HP. And I think they mentioned he was pretty much at his limits there. But that is still a decent amount of power that fuel setup was handling.
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07-07-2007
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#22
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Banned
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: 1mi. from SD Border
Posts: 374
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Re: E85?
*Bump.
Why don't somebody with the knowledge talk their asses off on the Pros and Cons of running E85 on a Forced Induction vehicle? I still have some questions, persay does it run any hotter/cooler?
Somebody talk talk talk and Sticky Sticky Sticky.
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07-07-2007
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#23
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formerly ecoli
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: On the dyno
Posts: 4,892
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Re: E85?
It runs cooler. It cools the intake charge temps, it cools the EGT temps, it can lower your coolant temps a little.
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07-07-2007
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#24
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Banned
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Re: E85?
That's what I wanted to know right there, talking with some buddys about e85 they had stated it runs damn hot and it is pretty bad on the engine. I think I may try my ways with it.
Hey does anyone know if I can run both Prem(93) and e85 using DSMLINK and say 880's? Or would it be too much on 880's/e316G? Or too little I meant.
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07-07-2007
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#25
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back in the saddle again
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Re: E85?
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Originally Posted by ExTREME
That's what I wanted to know right there, talking with some buddys about e85 they had stated it runs damn hot and it is pretty bad on the engine. I think I may try my ways with it.
Hey does anyone know if I can run both Prem(93) and e85 using DSMLINK and say 880's? Or would it be too much on 880's/e316G? Or too little I meant.
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You can run 880's on a link with 93 octane.
I hope your "buddies" don't help you work on your car as well
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07-07-2007
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#26
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Banned
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Re: E85?
Erm, I work on my own. I can yell and spazz out in ease and not look like a psycho.
I was just wondering if I could run both gases, but now that I think about it, why not just run e85 if it runs cooler and possibly am able to get more powah out of it..
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07-07-2007
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#27
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It was a auto get over it
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: rochester mn
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Re: E85?
If you have link, then have two tunes one for E85 and one for 93, but if your trying to mix the fuels and have a consistant tune then have fun, maybe im wrong but that seems like it would be a pain to tune and keep consistant
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07-07-2007
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#28
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Banned
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Re: E85?
Yeah, I have link and was going to make 2 tunes. 1 for each. But I think I may just go straight e85. I just tried to make everything more difficult, as usual. Thanks guys.
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07-07-2007
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#29
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back in the saddle again
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Re: E85?
I just finished tuning a 2.3L stroker evo with a 61mm on it on "dual tunes".
He has a daily driver E85 tune and a "limp home" 93 octane mode when he can't find E-85.
I would recommend something like that. Like mentioned above, blending gasoline makes for very inconsistant power and tuning.
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07-07-2007
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#30
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flips McGee
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Re: E85?
swanny did you set that up on a switch, or is a laptop required to make the changeover?
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07-07-2007
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#31
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back in the saddle again
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Re: E85?
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Originally Posted by scheides
swanny did you set that up on a switch, or is a laptop required to make the changeover?
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Laptop required.
Hmm...I guess I could use the nitrous tables to cover E-85 under power/main tables, but start-up, warm-up, cranking, etc would all be a bit weird, off....
So no, you need to upload the files. Now if someone had a carputer .
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07-07-2007
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#32
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Hates Everything
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Las Vegas
Drives: Neon
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Re: E85?
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Originally Posted by Halon
Correct me if I'm wrong, but last year when Kyle ran that 11.1 or whatever it was on E85, he was running an SC61 with stock lines, and a single Walbro 255HP. And I think they mentioned he was pretty much at his limits there. But that is still a decent amount of power that fuel setup was handling.
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SC6152S, Stock fuel line, stock fuel filter, Aeromotive FPR, 1600's, and a 255HP.
It did 525whp like this, and the fuel pump was just starting to die down at that point. IDC's were mid 80's. Base Fuel Pressure was between 35 and 40psi, I cant remember where exactly.
His Daily Driver FWD has a 255HP, an AFC, and 880's. It makes 330FWHP all day every day on some type of 16g. We would try to go higher, but it is a daily driver and it has 200,000 miles on it.
I'll just go out on a limb and say that E85 is a good fuel
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07-07-2007
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#33
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flips McGee
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Re: E85?
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Originally Posted by niterydr
So no, you need to upload the files. Now if someone had a carputer .
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Or if AEM would release an iPhone interface
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07-07-2007
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#34
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Mondovi, Wi
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Re: E85?
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Originally Posted by TheBlizzard
Nobody has seen any other problems with fuel lines? For some reason I think I thought I heard about the rubber rotting away because the E85 isn't as lubricated or some shit? I am probably wrong though since I haven't researched E85 that much.
So totally stock lines are fine as long as they can handle enough volume for your power goals while maintaining a good tune?
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Nothing to do with lubrication or lack of. It is everything to do with the corrosiveness of alcohol on rubber and aluminum.
Like many in this thread have said though, people using it today have seen little to no effect on their stock parts in non flex fuel vehicles.
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07-09-2007
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#35
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Hates Everything
Join Date: Dec 2003
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Re: E85?
AMS did a pretty good test on Corrosiveness of E85.
I have also read that difference in corrosion between E10 and E85 is minimal. All cars are designed to run E10, so therefore E85 shouldn't cause much difference.
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07-11-2007
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#36
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Monticello, MN
Posts: 331
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Re: E85?
I have a 1993 Talon TSI AWD turbo and all I have for mods would be Apexi N1 3" turboback exhaust and a K&N filter. I am wondering what exactly I would need to switch to E85.
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07-11-2007
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#37
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Big Lake MN
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Re: E85?
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Originally Posted by eagle talon guy
I have a 1993 Talon TSI AWD turbo and all I have for mods would be Apexi N1 3" turboback exhaust and a K&N filter. I am wondering what exactly I would need to switch to E85.
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Read post 16.
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07-11-2007
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#38
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Monticello, MN
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Re: E85?
Quote:
Originally Posted by carltalon
Read post 16.
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Thank you for the information.
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07-11-2007
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#39
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Monticello, MN
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Re: E85?
Out of curiousity, how much (about) would these parts cost?
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07-12-2007
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#40
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: FargO
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Re: E85?
Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle talon guy
Out of curiousity, how much (about) would these parts cost?
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1000cc injectors $275-290
fpr $150-250
dsmlink $545
fuel pump $100
If you ask me what the total of these four things are I am going to E-slap you in the E-face.
When we told you to search in your other thread we didn't mean just post your question in a different thread. We meant READ the thread! The second post tells you what you flippin need.
On a good note, at least you found the thread.
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