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TalonTSI95 07-02-2007 09:06 AM

E85?
 
i tried running a search but i could not find anything, just curious what is needed for me to run E85?

scheides 07-02-2007 09:24 AM

Re: E85?
 
search again man, seriously. fuel management, big fuel pump, big injectors. done!

2003eclipse 07-02-2007 09:26 AM

Re: E85?
 
Don't you need differn't lines to?

Shane@DBPerformance 07-02-2007 10:08 AM

Re: E85?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2003eclipse (Post 199481)
Don't you need differn't lines to?

Not unless your stock ones are too small to support your HP. The stock lines will max at a much lower HP level on E85 then they would on race gas.

jhaan_dude 07-02-2007 10:22 AM

Re: E85?
 
can we get the exact minimum specs for running E85?

AJ 07-02-2007 11:50 AM

Re: E85?
 
If someone wants to put a FAQ together we can take care of this once and for all.

Halon 07-02-2007 12:44 PM

Re: E85?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jhaan_dude (Post 199487)
can we get the exact minimum specs for running E85?

That is completely dependant on your setup. Someone with a SC61 is going to have entirely different requirements then someone on a T28.

To reinforce what Chris said, all you need is to make sure you have enough pump, enough injectors, and fuel management.

TheBlizzard 07-02-2007 12:51 PM

Re: E85?
 
Nobody has seen any other problems with fuel lines? For some reason I think I thought I heard about the rubber rotting away because the E85 isn't as lubricated or some shit? I am probably wrong though since I haven't researched E85 that much.

So totally stock lines are fine as long as they can handle enough volume for your power goals while maintaining a good tune?

Halon 07-02-2007 12:56 PM

Re: E85?
 
So far so good. I wish I could find the link again, but there were some mustang folk who had been running it for a long time, and decided to disassemble everything to inspect for any abnormal wear. They found nothing. But if in 7 years I find that I need to replace my fuel rail due to e85, then so be it.

ExTREME 07-02-2007 01:56 PM

Re: E85?
 
950's on a e316g / walbro 255 / dsmlink over kill?

I haven't found much on this setup, let alone a E316G. I was just wondering if I can support our great country in burning what they can provide.

twack 07-02-2007 02:08 PM

Re: E85?
 
No such thing as over kill, always better to be over prepared then underprepared, but you should also get a fuel pressure regulator

scheides 07-02-2007 02:37 PM

Re: E85?
 
950's should be fine on that turbo. Just keep an eye on your IDC's while tuning. DSMlink will work dandy!

ExTREME 07-02-2007 02:48 PM

Re: E85?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by twack (Post 199525)
No such thing as over kill, always better to be over prepared then underprepared, but you should also get a fuel pressure regulator

Yeah, forgot that. I'll be getting that, theres so much stuff I still need but I'm damn close to being able to put it all together. I'm still deciding on a Fuel Lab or Aero' unit.

Scheides, or anyone for that matter, what's a safe Duty Cycle for it? That's my last squid question. :P I'm aiming for way too much awhp on the evo 3 16g.

niterydr 07-02-2007 02:50 PM

Re: E85?
 
950's are a tad large.
We just got done doing 880's on a 1g with 2g mas, idc's were just fine for 300ishawhp on our rollers.

jhaan_dude 07-02-2007 03:12 PM

Re: E85?
 
my setup is t3 AR .48, 880cc injectors, 255 walbro, and megan racing fuel pressure regulator, and apexi neo. would that work together with no problems?

carltalon 07-02-2007 03:29 PM

Re: E85?
 
A wideband o2 should also be on your list.

you'll need

30%-40% bigger fuel pump (255's have proven sufficent for up to a 50 trim)
30%-40% bigger injectors
some type of fuel controler (SAFC, DSMLINK, EMS, ect.)
wideband o2 sensor.

Halon 07-02-2007 04:10 PM

Re: E85?
 
I'd just say if all the injectors are the same price, just get the largest ones that you can reasonably control with the tuning tools you have. But 880's should be plenty fine for a T3. As for the Neo, I have no experience with those. But if you have an EPROM, most shops here could burn you a new chip to get you close, and then fine tune it with whatever else you have.

scheides 07-02-2007 05:18 PM

Re: E85?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by niterydr (Post 199537)
950's are a tad large.
We just got done doing 880's on a 1g with 2g mas, idc's were just fine for 300ishawhp on our rollers.

What were the IDC's at on that car?

niterydr 07-02-2007 06:54 PM

Re: E85?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 199571)
What were the IDC's at on that car?

I don't recall, I want to say mid 80's?

Shane@DBPerformance 07-02-2007 07:41 PM

Re: E85?
 
If you have stock lines and a single fuel pump, then 880s are enough. The stock lines, a Walbro 255 and 880s will all max around the same HP. If the car makes some power, then you need a bigger fuel system to run E85. You can run 1000s though, it won't hurt anything, I have 4 customers with Evos running E85 and 1000cc injectors.


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